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What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?

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Re: What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?

Postby James Randolph » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:06 pm

Todd Vetter suggests valuable testimony was left out of our Bibles. What is he doing (besides preaching the moon Sabbath) to lead others to Christ? He's introducing the forgery of Nicolas Notovitch, which he claims is a Gospel found in a monastery in Tibet in 1887. The forgery was inspired by reading the occultist Mme Blavatsky. This is what he is offering as better than the Bible. What a hoax! The moon Sabbath was just shot down by one of its favorite proponents. Tibet is a Buddhist country. The moon Sabbath is Buddhist. Nothing against Buddhists, but let's not try to support Buddhism on the basis of the Bible.
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Re: What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?

Postby toddvetter » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:23 pm

James Randolph wrote:Todd Vetter suggests valuable testimony was left out of our Bibles. What is he doing (besides preaching the moon Sabbath) to lead others to Christ? He's introducing the forgery of Nicolas Notovitch, which he claims is a Gospel found in a monastery in Tibet in 1887. The forgery was inspired by reading the occultist Mme Blavatsky. This is what he is offering as better than the Bible. What a hoax! The moon Sabbath was just shot down by one of its favorite proponents. Tibet is a Buddhist country. The moon Sabbath is Buddhist. Nothing against Buddhists, but let's not try to support Buddhism on the basis of the Bible.



It appears you have born false witness against me in more than one post. This is interesting in deed. The title of this thread "What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?", is answered by Jesus. The true worshippers of God will be in spirit and in truth. Are you speaking truth by telling others lies about me James? Is the spririt of God within you? You know you cannot bare good fruit of yourself and no where in the book does it say that the book will help you bare good fruit. The letter kills, it's the spirit that gives life.

If you want to help someone learn about God, learn to keep the Law. learn to judge yourself against the Law of God. The wicked will be judged by the rightious but you are not to judge another lest you be judged. This means you will judge your own wicked heart agains the law of God if you want to live.

Me calling you out for baring false witness against me, is not me judging you. Just me telling others that you have made a false witness against me. The gospel I referenced is the gospel of the 12 which history records did exhist prior to the councils that gave you the 4 bible gospels you have today. The date Ousely translated the Gopel of the 12 was in 1877, and it had nothing to do with Nicolas Notovitch or Mme Blavatsky. You really should read what I have to present before jumping to false conclusions and making yourselve out to be a liar. I give the G-12 text the same test as the 4 bible gospels and what I discovered you will have to see for yourself in the presentation I share.

It's very clear Satan has used you to try to discourage people from viewing what I have come to share with the folks of WLC. Will you humble your heart to see what Satan tried to get you to hide from others? There is a special treat on page 37 which illustrates your current state of salvation and it could not be more clear once you read every fact listed on the page in full.

I want to thank you again for giving me the perfect example of why the Christian world needs to see the Information i have come to share.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/p ... ection.pdf

God Bless
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Re: What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?

Postby Gary Hammock » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:19 pm

Live however you like. Don't try to force the "life of Christ" on yourself or others...

NO sane person would try to live a "christ like life" unless they are planning to kill themselves by hanging at the age of 33. I haven't met a Christian yet who can raise the dead or heal the sick, that's just another dog and pony show.

It's myth. The answer to this thread is Don't try to live like bible characters, you can't do it.

It's balogna.

Until I see a professed Christian do the works of the spirit, I wont' be convinced that it's anything other than an ancient tale no different than Puff the magic dragon or Pinnochio.

Go figure.

Gary
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Re: What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?

Postby Gary Hammock » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:23 pm

Oh, and Eddie Vetter,

Stop with the "Satan is trying to get you to" BS.

If someone here can define exactly what the bible teaches "Satan" is, without a shred of doubt, I'll listen. But as of yet, I haven't seen anyone here show a clear proof as to what "Satan" actually is in either the Hebrew or Greek canon.

For most, "Satan" is a spirit being, some entity that the alleged all powerful perfect God created. Why? What perfect God lets such a deceitful dreaded thing go on?

If you ask me, the bible God has made many mistakes and his track record is piss poor.

How many puppies and kittens died in that flood? Alligators and sharks got to survive though, right?

LOL
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Re: What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?

Postby toddvetter » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:00 am

Gary Hammock wrote:Oh, and Eddie Vetter,

Stop with the "Satan is trying to get you to" BS.

If someone here can define exactly what the bible teaches "Satan" is, without a shred of doubt, I'll listen. But as of yet, I haven't seen anyone here show a clear proof as to what "Satan" actually is in either the Hebrew or Greek canon.

For most, "Satan" is a spirit being, some entity that the alleged all powerful perfect God created. Why? What perfect God lets such a deceitful dreaded thing go on?

If you ask me, the bible God has made many mistakes and his track record is piss poor.

How many puppies and kittens died in that flood? Alligators and sharks got to survive though, right?

LOL


Satan is the father of Ignorance. He rules over man until man is united to the spirit and wisdom of God. it's for this reason we are born dead in flesh and in ignorance until we learn to live in spirit and in truth.
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Re: What can we do in our lives to lead others to Christ?

Postby jeffcamp » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:38 pm

Dear Gary,
I have thought about the satan thing for some time now, and I do not know. But I wonder if my thoughts are what I should call satan. I feel that if Holy Spirit lives in me, then so does the satan. If the Bible is true, then this is as close to being the truth, as I can understand. Like you said about desism, I nor the Bible has all the answers. I know you may not agree, but I would like to hear what you say. Thanks Jeff
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